With a volatile personality and an emotional performance from Adam Driver, Kylo Ren came out of the Sequel trilogy a favorite among Star Wars fans. Considered a nuanced villain for a new era of the Star Wars franchise, the tall, dark, and irascible warrior would have often carried the trilogy on his shoulders.
Like the Sequel trilogy itself, Kylo Ren has become a source of division in the Star Wars community, with the Supreme Leader of the First Order having as many detractors as die-hard fans. While some believe he will never compare to Darth Vader, others argue that he is the greatest villain the Skywalker Saga has ever seen, indicating a wide variety of unpopular opinions.
ten He did not wear the trilogy
It’s no secret that the Sequel Trilogy was incredibly divisive among Star Wars fans, but one aspect almost universally agreed upon is the strength of Kylo Ren’s character arc. Most fans see him as nuanced, with the Warrior’s story constantly evolving as he is torn between his dedication to the First Order and his family in the Resistance. The fact that he is a villain who shows more emotion than Darth Vader is not seen as a weakness but as a strength, offering a more three-dimensional antagonist.
One Redditor was almost diametrically opposed to the idea that Kylo Ren brought anything of value to the three films, going so far as to say he certainly didn’t “carry the trilogy” like others have said. stated and if anything, his constant climaxes and sounding like âa 12 year old boy still having wheezing fitsâ only made him seem less effective as a villain.
9 He’s the best Star Wars antagonist
Star Wars has produced some of sci-fi’s most popular antagonists, including Emperor Palpatine, Darth Vader, Darth Maul, and others. Vader consistently ranks among the five best movie villains of all time on multiple lists that often include Hannibal Lecter, Thanos, Michael Myers, and The Terminator.
Some fans like Redditor DunkingKobain think Kylo Ren is actually the best Star Wars antagonist because he’s âa well-rounded character,â seeing villains like Vader and the Emperor as one-dimensional. Ren’s doubts, anxieties, and internal conflicts might make him more interesting and complex, but most fans believe the traits take him away from his intimidating character.
8 His shirtless scene was the only reason Reylo arrived
The romance between Kylo Ren and Rey brought an interesting and unexpected dynamic to the franchise, less tearful than that of Anakin and Padme but more passionate than that of Han and Leia. He was a potential Sith and she was a Jedi in training, so the feelings of intimacy that developed between the main villain and the hero were certainly subversive.
A Redditor claims that if Kylo Ren had never appeared to Rey shirtless, she would never have cared about him in the first place because there was “no clue about attraction, no chemistry, [and] no scenes together. Debates have flourished all over social media as to whether or not there was a legitimate basis for the development of “Reylo”, but most fans point to the “bridal porter” scene in Star Wars: The Force Awakens like the beginning.
7 He’s a better-written character than Vader
In the original trilogy, Darth Vader embodied the very essence of wickedness in a space opera based on a conflict of Good versus Evil. The Prequel Trilogy gave the Soulless Killer a rich history that painted him as a selfless young boy whose attachment to his mother and wife took him to the dark side.
Redditor belowthemask42 explains that even with the Prequel trilogy, Anakin Skywalker’s descent into darkness seemed forced and mechanical over the course of three films, only really manifesting towards the end, as Kylo Ren “struggled with the dark side for 3 films and had to lose both his parents before he saw the light. ” Fans would say that just because he didn’t “automatically get bad,” his struggle was nonetheless multifaceted and multidimensional.
6 Adam Driver’s performance was horrible
Considered one of the best actors of his generation as a result of the Sequel Trilogy, Adam Driver is known for his complex, visceral and highly emotional performances. Most Star Wars fans point to his on-screen presence as adding a dynamic element to the films, in particular embodying a villain torn between his desire to do evil despite a compulsion to do good.
Redditor DarthFarris decided that Adam Driver’s presence in the films was one of the “most underwhelming and underwhelming aspects of the new trilogy, along with not only how it looked, but [also] its performance. His constantly painful facial expressions, emotionless delivery, and ill-fitting body language all contributed to an incredible character.
5 Its theme is more intimidating than that of Darth Vader
The musical score John Williams wrote for the Skywalker saga is considered iconic by Star Wars fans. In particular, the theme song he created for Darth Vader – known as The Imperial March – is one of the most popular pieces of music in the entire franchise outside of the main theme. Melodious, authoritarian and moving, the military march perfectly captures both the raw power of the dark side and the might of the Empire.
A Redditor ruled that Kylo Ren’s theme song, with its weird brassy notes, “has a deeper, darker sound,” especially because it isn’t as fast and represents his character alone (and not l ‘Empire). For a hopeful Sith, it’s written appropriately in a minor key, without the major chords and positive flourishes of the Imperial March.
4 He should have gotten Luke and Leia’s lightsabers
After Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, Rey buries Luke and Leia’s lightsabers in the sand near Lars’ farm where Luke grew up, signifying the end of this chapter in Jedi and Galactic history. Most fans believe she was entitled to lightsabers because Kylo Ren aligned with the Evil Emperor by choice, while Rey worked to actively change the fate of her birth.
LIXLAX12 argues that because Kylo Ren actually had Skywalker blood in him, he was “much closer to the Skywalkers than Rey ever was” and he should have been given Luke and Leia’s lightsabers, not a Palpatine. who changed his name to Skywalker. Having a Palpatine change her name to Skywalker, while subverting her fate, stole a true Skywalker from her redemption arc.
3 His lightsaber technique is awesome
There are a variety of fighting styles for users of the Dark Side in the Star Wars universe, from the worthy and inspired technique of Count Dooku’s sword to the more acrobatic style of Darth Maul, but the fighting form of Kylo Ren is generally considered the worst. because of his erratic, frantic and clumsy execution. After all, he could have been beaten by a former stormtrooper who had never wielded a lightsaber before.
A Redditor decided that Kylo Ren’s lightsaber technique was actually the best because of its brutality, and Adam Driver was truly delivering “the intensity, anger, and meanness of Kylo’s strikes.” To them, it seems more realistic for a conflicting Dark Side user to carry their emotional turmoil in their fights, when most fans see it as a handicap.
2 He’s a better character than Anakin
Much of the Skywalker Saga hinges on the choices made by Anakin Skywalker, whose disgrace received an entire Prequel trilogy in its own right. The Dark Side provided him with a way to save the people he loved, making his conflict both relatable and tragic.
Fans like this Redditor believe Kylo Ren’s redemption arc is actually better than Anakin’s, with more “character development.” [and] play better. âIt should be noted that fans only got a glimpse of Kylo Ren as Ben Solo before his fall from grace, as the Prequel trilogy chronicled much of Anakin’s youth, making the sudden fall to the dark side more dismal.
1 He gets a useless hatred for being powerful
The Skywalker Saga focuses on two main family heirlooms in the galaxy; the Skywalkers and the Palpatines. The offspring of both bloodlines are more powerful than any other Force user in the galaxy, which is generally accepted by Star Wars fans given their natural abilities to connect with the Force. Their inherent ability to tap into its energy flow replaces the amount of training that might normally be required.
One Redditor believes that although he comes from a powerful line of Force users, Kylo Ren receives too much criticism for his abilities. Like Rey or Anakin Skywalker, he didn’t get his “power for plot devices” but his legacy, which makes him more of an aspect of character development, while the majority of fans believe his abilities don’t. are undeserved (perhaps because so little of her story is shown in the onscreen flashbacks).
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